Jabal al Burj

[RizlaQc]

if the dev and (ZEE) dont want to play it just dont play it , but your not alone bring it back plz

[RizlaQc]

to many guy still ask for it when im on and i have to say dev dont like it so they remove it .............................................not gona tell what they say to me but !!!!!!!!!!!

12 minutes ago, RizlaQc said:

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[=VG= TROJAN]

yes we need jabal al burj back!

[=VG= keed]

The 7 stages of grief:

[=VG= Melon Muncher]

> Be me, dedicated software dev
> Spend days and nights crunching code, squashing bugs
> My life revolves around this project, it's my pride and joy
> There's one thing I can't stand though... "Jabal Al Burj"
> Every update, every patch, it's there - taunting me
> Forced to work on it day in and day out
> Gaze at the code, eyes stinging, my white whale 
> Decide enough is enough
> Smash that "Delete" button like my life depends on it
> The name "Jabal Al Burj" erased forever from the game
> Feel a wave of relief, finally free from the chains
> The next day, ready to face the consequences
> Player uproar and online backlash
> Surprisingly, feel nothing
> It's like the Jabal Al Burj never existed
> A weight lifted off my shoulder, feeling invincible
> Turns out sometimes you have to destroy a mountain of code to create a masterpiece.

Alternate

> be programmer for popular game Project Reality
> develop intense hatred for certain map, jabal al burj
> get carried away, decide to remove it
> all hell breaks loose in gamer community
> everyone loved that damned map
> instead of blaming me, everyone points finger at Zeee
> feel safe but also a bit guilty
> mfw my map hatred sparks a full blown PR crisis
> mfw poor innocent Zeee gets the blame instead of me
> still, not gonna bring back jabal al burj, that map sucks

[=VG= SemlerPDX]

There is clearly only one solution for anyone who misses Jabal Al Burj:

>become a PR-CON/PR-DEV
>fix Jabal Al Burj, even if the map itself needs fixing
>if fixed, Jabal will be allowed back
>quit being a PR-CON/PR-DEV
>play Jabal Al Burj

[RizlaQc]

i know dev do what they can but ,on pr web site and some VG just tell us they

don't want to play it anymore so they delete it ....i know some guy like zee hate the one with bot spwan in dam some other hate aa ...i can tell you some map we can remove for the same reason and i dont i play it or come back

On 8/12/2023 at 3:30 AM, RizlaQc said:

 

 

 

[=VG= Nyther]

I feel like I'm stoned while reading this thread 

[Allie2]

On 8/12/2023 at 5:26 PM, =VG= keed said:

The 7 stages of grief:

No no they are already at bargaining stage

[=VG= Inch]

On 8/13/2023 at 1:19 AM, =VG= SemlerPDX said:

>fix Jabal Al Burj, even if the map itself needs fixing

Hell, i would like to see the map in 4km size, so it will be a big impact for the PR community lol-

 

From what i've heard, there's a big chance if you make a map in 4km to be implemented in-game, if it's good in every aspect.

 

My 2 cents.

[ZZANG1847]

On 8/12/2023 at 3:22 AM, =VG= Melon Muncher said:

> Be me, dedicated software dev
> Spend days and nights crunching code, squashing bugs
> My life revolves around this project, it's my pride and joy
> There's one thing I can't stand though... "Jabal Al Burj"
> Every update, every patch, it's there - taunting me
> Forced to work on it day in and day out
> Gaze at the code, eyes stinging, my white whale 
> Decide enough is enough
> Smash that "Delete" button like my life depends on it
> The name "Jabal Al Burj" erased forever from the game
> Feel a wave of relief, finally free from the chains
> The next day, ready to face the consequences
> Player uproar and online backlash
> Surprisingly, feel nothing
> It's like the Jabal Al Burj never existed
> A weight lifted off my shoulder, feeling invincible
> Turns out sometimes you have to destroy a mountain of code to create a masterpiece.

Alternate

> be programmer for popular game Project Reality
> develop intense hatred for certain map, jabal al burj
> get carried away, decide to remove it
> all hell breaks loose in gamer community
> everyone loved that damned map
> instead of blaming me, everyone points finger at Zeee
> feel safe but also a bit guilty
> mfw my map hatred sparks a full blown PR crisis
> mfw poor innocent Zeee gets the blame instead of me
> still, not gonna bring back jabal al burj, that map sucks

Maybe I just have a fuzzy memory, but I SWEAR TO GOD your least favorite map was Kashan Desert, STD.

[=VG= Melon Muncher]

3 hours ago, ZZANG1847 said:

Maybe I just have a fuzzy memory, but I SWEAR TO GOD your least favorite map was Kashan Desert, STD.

It's hard to remember correctly if you never play the game.

You're just confused, what I say is that kashan is my favourite map

 

[Allie2]

3 hours ago, =VG= Melon Muncher said:

It's hard to remember correctly if you never play the game.

You're just confused, what I say is that kashan is my favourite map

 

This here is a typical response of a tsundere.

[Irish]

Jabal al Burj

 

I have never played this map but it looks awesome to me, I didn't know about it until recently.

[Pew_Pew]

Me when someone says they won't bring back jabal

 

 

[=VG= The_Polish_Guy]

[=VG= Nyther]

Bring back Opfor Fridays

[=VG= GRNANDGLD]

ooooo night Jabal...i miss you so

 

[Pew_Pew]

6 hours ago, =VG= GRNANDGLD said:

ooooo night Jabal...i miss you so

 

It was indeed a good one

[Pew_Pew]

We should just make a petition on their forum and show them how much we love the map

[=VG= The_Polish_Guy]

No you shouldn't

[Pew_Pew]

1 minute ago, =VG= The_Polish_Guy said:

No you shouldn't

If not for Jabal, for Bijar maybe yeah

[PL gomezo]

6 hours ago, Pew_Pew said:

If not for Jabal, for Bijar maybe yeah

100+ kills on BMP/Arbalet from camping a hill and blasting the final objective on Bijar LRG>>>

[Pew_Pew]

3 minutes ago, PL gomezo said:

100+ kills on BMP/Arbalet from camping a hill and blasting the final objective on Bijar LRG>>>

My best layout so far. Had 100 kills one time with russian su

[System]

I'm not sure if this is a "funny" type of post with the responses and everything, but let's put this discussion to rest once and for all:

Removal of maps is not tied to COOP nor the developers of COOP - maps get removed cause they're old, unbalanced and/or just plain suck for deployment.
If you want these maps in the game go ahead and download, then open your BF2 editor and start reworking and balancing them - but for now the focus of the devs working on maps is better utilized elsewhere - which is something they themselves have said, you can read about it in the official PR Discord server.

So what if they don't have the time to give the maps the love they deserve, surely we can keep these maps for coop and not remove them entirely?
Well no, and don't call me Shirley. The emphasis of PR is not on coop, we barely reach 40 people active daily on the server, and with other servers combined, probably less than a hundred daily:

Spoiler

These are our stats for the past month, barely hit 40, if at all

For comparison here's deployment with (usually 1 always active server like HOG or SSG):

Spoiler

425 on a slow day

This week hit a high of almost 4000 active players during a week - that's 4000 accounts logging on during the week to play - I'm sure if you were to pull the stats for coop, we'd barely reach 500 (go and ask the devs for the master server stats, it's no biggy to gather them anyway)

So the question is why should the devs utilize their effort and limited time in fixing maps for a game-mode which doesn't see as much consumption as the game-mode they constantly work on? The maps hinder gameplay from their perspective if set, and take up valuable space that could be used for other, more modern maps. These devs are not Zeee or melon, I know Unicode was working on Jabal and you can go ask wherever (PR related) you'd like about this info.

TL;DR: Devs have already said that the maps need balancing and reworking, which costs time, which they would rather spend improving the game elsewhere. These devs are not melon or Zeee afaik (who make pretty awesome coop layers for us and listen to our feedback (not always as most of us complain without any reason anyway)), and if you want these maps back go learn to edit/make maps and consult with the devs in charge of mapping on what should be fixed. This tl;dr has turned into it's own passage so:
TL;DR:

Spoiler

GO MAKE AND PLAY JABAL ON MINECRAFT IF YOU WOULD, SCRUBS

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