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Yes, lets have the tanks and APCs rape even more than they already do. Sounds good. Don't worry ranger, server will be set back to normal this weekend anyways.

Send me a list of which map and what you want on it and i can make it. All weapon / vehicle / FOB etc. restrictions are server sided and can be edited easily as needed.

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Sydney and I are waiting to hear back from couple of others, which is why we took a separate squad. If they say no then we are more than happy to jump to squad 2.

Squad lead for Three plz. Question : What kind of equipment do we get (rifles / AT)?

Commander doesn't really have be around during the battles, it's preferred (moral support for your minions), but not required. As long as he has time to come online few times a week to select research, troop movements, Check the world map, think over the strategy etc, which all will be done over the forums, it's fine. As for screwing up, don't worry about it. The only one who's mostly likely to do it is me when I accidentally "blow" the server up by editing the server files.

So all the hard work the mappers and COOP devs have put into PR is just "waste of space" and thrown away the moment it doesn't suit for PvP. Brilliant.

Just out of curiosity, why were the maps scrapped in the first place? Why not just leave them in, if not for Deployment then for COOP? I seem to remember that Shikotan was one of the most popular INF maps on COOP back in the day. Same question about the old PR mappack. The maps work perfectly fine, just need to have some of the outdated stuff removed/replaced, init file organised and the AI "flag" file updated.

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We played around on it with 20ish people and I didn't notice any changes, apart from instead of having 10 vehicles camping on the hills, it was only 2. 1 f16, abrams and 3 bradlies is more than enough to counter the first wave of t62s and BMP1s that roll out.

These changes will propably never be added to the official release as the PR standars require for both teams to have same amount / balanced assets. We tried to talk about it years ago and got completely shut down. Best thing we can do is start a petition to have the COOP devs add couple of lines for each vehicle spawn and flag that state the ownership, delay and amount so we could edit them freely as needed. EDIT : All the changes are currently up on the test server (PW: 123). I can upload them to dropbox sometime if needed.

Uploaded additional changes to the server. Again all of this is temporary and will be reverted in a few days. General : 1. Reduced tickets for bluefor on some of the maps Muttrah : 1. Bots are now more aggressive on their deployment 2. Slightly increased time it takes to cap docks. Reduced time it takes to capture ECC & WCC but increased time it takes to neutralise them. 3. Increased TOW HMMWV Respawn time slightly 4. Increased Cobra respawn time on STD to 10 minutes EDIT : Looks good so far Khamisiyah : 1. Bots now spawn on bunkers & chem factory 2. ZU guns now respawn after a while 3. Increased f15 respawn time to 10 minutes 4. Bots now focus more on defending/spawning on the flags rather than going for the vehicles Kashan : 1. Bots are now more aggressive on their deployment and should be able to capture both bunkers in reasonable time, provided that human side doesn't rush the hills before village is captured 2. Bots now get AAs once they capture bunkers 3. Increased jet respawn times to 10 minutes. ALT : 1. Removed 1 man tanks and reduced the total number of tanks to 2, with one of them being delayed. 2. removed one of the f16s STD : 1. Reduced total number of tanks from 12 to 4. All tanks have increased respawn times. All one man tanks have been removed. 2. Reduced respawn time on bot aircrafts Pavlovsk : 1. Bots are now more aggressive on their deployment 2. Decreased ZU gun respawn times slightly ALT : 1. Increased time it takes to capture west beach fort so the bots would have a chance to fight over it before the 2 man tank squad captures it. 2. increased TOW HMMWV respawn time slightly STD : 1. Increased harrier respawn time to 10 minutes. 2. Increased time it takes to neutralise West Beach Fort so the bots would have a chance to defend it properly.

40 bots with ratio on 200.

So far the spawn time changes that I've tried on the test server have ended up either not working or forcing you to CTD after loading in. The same with the flag ownership changes and swapping 1 man assets with 2 man assets. The caporder change was just an example. EDIT : Error from my part. flags seem to work. Not sure why it didn't work earlier, propably some stupid typo somewhere. Disregard those lines on last post. Jup everything besides removing the 1 man assets works and I'm a dumbo. I'll be adding some ticket and respawn changes to the test tomorrow.

Unfortunately range is something that is and always will be an issue when it comes to fighting against bots. Only way I see that could fix it is by decreasing the view distance to insane levels and then reducing the bot engagement range to that level, which could in theory provide quite amazing INF battles, but would render the entire air arsenal useless in the process. The changes on the server are temporary and will be reverted in few days. The biggest issue in COOP atm is the amount of assets available on both sides. An issue easily solvable if the COOP community was given free hands to modify the maps based on the playerbase needs, but unfortunately most of those tools have been ripped from us over the course of latest updates. (yes I'm taking the piss on devs. Sue me). If the files weren't blocked by every imaginable "code" or whatever check system, we could easily increase spawn times of assets on human side, force the bots to spawn on the foward flags, change cap orders etc. One thing that has been discussed every now and then is to reduce the slots on the server to 30 or so and increase the bot count by the extra slots recieved. Unfortunately in my opinion it would only end up with less inf being on the field and more assets raping against the bots on human side. Again, something that could be fixed, but oh well. Like Jersans mentioned, in the end it all comes down to the players and how they choose to play the game. We have had really amazing rounds when the regulars and usual "asset whores" went to do INF and left the heavy assets for newer / noob players (not sure if allowed to used that word in 2018, so sorry if offended anyone), so if we want to improve the teamplay even by slightest I suggest : 1. admins running more INF maps during peak hours (I know that some of you already do that, so thumbs up) 2. On asset maps, favour doing inf and leave the heavy assets to randoms. 3. Don't kick randoms from your squad just so your usual buddies could join in. If the dudes in your squad are following orders and aren't running around on their own, let them stay and explain things if needed. 4. Don't lock your INF squad until it's full (7-8 people)

Already did that. Made it so that they fire ATGMs at certain minimum and maximum range and once that minimum range gets breached they swap over to AP. For INF, the BMPs use HE and if the inf gets too close, then they swap over to HEFRAGs /GL Launchers if available. Jup. They still go for the vehicles, but will also shoot at inf if aggrevated. Changed the Jets over to gunrun the inf and choppers as the bomb didn't do as much damage as I thought it would do. Jup. You can modify the values on server files as much as you want as long as you don't add anything to it. Basically works the same way as the server.zip files in map folders, you can edit the values, but can't add additional stuff or change ingame "items" EDIT : files have been uploaded and server is now running on modified AI settings. Feel free to post any feedback and bugs that you encounter during the rounds.

I'll apply the changes this evening. Doing some last checkups. The BMP3s do fire their ATGMs due to them not having any delay which is the same with some of the sp static at launchers, to answer Double's question. Trying to get the heavy attack helos to fire their atgms properly as well. Looks promising so far, although the gunner fires the rockets like an average COOP player with every 20th or so rocket hitting the target atm.

From what I can tell PR doesnt use half of the esai things but rather the old default PR files. The jets bomb just fine, they were just missing target values for some of the ground units. Same with atgms

Hi chaps, Just a quick notification to let you guys know that in the next few following days VG COOP server will go through a few temporary AI balance changes to make the rounds a bit more challenging. As always any feedback is welcome during the testing which will take roughly around a week or until people get too salty. The changes include : 1. Bot controlled autocannon APCs / IFVs now fire at incoming enemy jets. IFVs have increased range for ATGMs and now occasionally use them against heavy armor (BMP3) 2. LATs now fire at helos that wander too close & have increased range against IFVs and MBTs. 3. AT Vehicles occasionaly fire at INF, but prioritise on vehicles. 4. Jets now do gunruns on helos. 5. Bots now use GL launchers from longer range and fire smoke rounds at light vehicles and INF that's beyond their usual engagement range. 6. BMPs now use HEFRAGs on INF that get too close. Any additional changes are to be added here throughout the testing.

I feel that the easiest way to solve this years long claiming "problem" is to follow the same rule every popped deployment server has set : 1) APCs that don't require both crew members to use crewman kits (VAB, WZ 50.cal, fuchs etc.) are unclaimable and fall under same rules as jeeps. 2) Scout vehicles such as batmobile & BRDM2 are unclaimable. 3) Mech inf squad has access to ONE apc/ifv once the squad has more than 4-6 members. If APC squad was created before mech inf, Apc squad claims all the apcs/ifvs, but must reserve one of the vehicles and its respawn to mech inf (chosen by apc squad lead). If mech inf was created before APC squad, then mech inf can claim ONE of the apcs/ifvs and its respawns.(chosen be mech inf squad lead) If mech inf gets created mid-round and has enough members, the APC squad lead must designate a vehicle that goes for mech inf once it respawns. I personally feel that mech inf should only be allowed to claim 2 man vehicles due to the 8 player squad limit, but I'd like to hear other's opinions on this.

"Poor early game equipment" = shittier and less amount of vehicles / guns compared to other factions. China for example has quite a powerful apc, compared to the german fuchs that besides tickleing can't do much against enemy vehicles. Rifles in kits can be changed as needed. As germans won't get G3s, they can get other rifles for their marksmen. I don't see a problem with german officer/lat not having the g3 as alt gun. There are more than 1 AK variants + other soviet era guns ingame. As I mentioned, most of the specialist kits would have to be unlocked as well, so no need to worry about lack of INF research. The research delay goes down as the campaign progresses. The research delay is soley to prevent the heavy tanks / BMP3s rolling out and starting to rape after the first battle and ruin all the purpose of having INF around. All delays are neglected after about 1/3 of the planned campaign time is over. I expect the first tanks to start rolling out about 4-5 weeks into the campaign (3rd - 4th battle) depending on what the CO decides to focus on. The first wave to tanks will have no thermals, less ammo, no HEFRAGS/ATGMs and longer reload times, which can be upgraded in the research tab. It's all up to the commander to choose which way he wants to go : does he want to go more fun way and focus mostly on INF and have vehicles as a backup for combined forces or does he want to go all rape way and focus on vehicles and leave INF in the background. If you focus on solely on vehicels then you'll have to keep in mind that if you lose them, then they are gone forever and if you didn't upgrade your inf at all, then you are in a tight spot. Assets can and will be combined, soldiers won't. If more than one nation's divisions happen to be on the same sector during the battle, then it's up to Commander to decide which nation will be used during the battle as the main force. Others will act as a backup (Delayed vehicles + additional tickets). Campaign Edits : Changed russian action : "for the motherland" - changed to "recieve 75 additional tickets if army runs out during the battle. Can only be used once per battlecycle"

Just to clarify : 1. factions won't be combined. PR doesn't really allow to have different faction units in one without bugging the hell out & the need to create your own separate faction. It's only possible to do for the bots without the need to disable the one faction rule that doesn't allow you to pick up enemy kits which would just rise a new set of problems. The way research is going to work is that all the nations in faction will start with the very basic equipment (vietnamese era guns, low tier ATs etc.), most of the specialist kits (grenadier, MMG, AT, AA, Engi) disabled, FOBs & assets disabled until researched. As the INF research progresses, the nations in the faction will start recieving higher tier weapons. G3s, as mentioned above, are exclusive to M.E.C. (MEC elite corps) units and they will be unlocked once MEC has done the corresponding research and conquered the specified sectors. The commander will recieve a full briefing on how the nation units will perform during the battles. The 2 month long research for french grenadier kit & tanks was a joke. It won't be that long. For those who have played Hearts of Iron, the research will be in similar nature with higher tier stuff having penalties in the beginning that will reduce over time until the right "era" has arrived. 2. MEC does have (kind of) and air force, forgot to add the word "proper" to it. They won't get any fancy CAS assets like others, but they do get some of the most shittiest (read fun) planes/helos PR has to offer. 3. Not all maps are going to have fog as it wouldn't make any sense. Of course, if the commander wishes to add that "milsim stealth" atmosphere before the assault then sure, I can add the fog, but otherwise I wouldn't worry about it that much. My aim is not to make the AI rape everything, but to create a fair challenge for both new and experienced players. The first few cycles will focus on mostly INF based maps and as we progress onwards, bigger maps will come active, depending on how the research goes. Commander will be notified 1-2 cycles ahead when the map of the sector changes. On maps where there aren't any runways but jets are chosen for battle, modified area attack will be given to the commander instead which would implement the CAS flying around. If enemy force has their own jets / AA deployed during the battle, the area attack would be either cancelled or delayed further, depending on the amount of assets. CAS helos will most likely be available on all of the maps as placing a small landing pad is not an issue.

There most likely wont be any PvP action, if so then only on special missions. As for factions, the AI controlled factions are led by a neutral person, who has no connection with VG nor with PR in general.

Australia and NZ got added to euro due to them being tightly tied with the brits. Poland is a neutral country in this scenario that divides russia and euro dudes. IDF is a neutral faction as well that MEC needs to conquer in order to unlock the elite units.

Yee, still PR. It's not that difficult actually, it may seem a bit confusing atm as I left most of the HQ stuff out from this post and only posted the main things, but the commander will get a full debiref once selected. Grunts don't need to worry about anything else but kicking bot's butts when the battle takes place. If anyone thinking about going commandah has any questions, feel free to hit me up on TS and I can go into more detail.