Guest Guest DTRON Posted June 18, 2011 at 01:36 PM Guest Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 at 01:36 PM I'm a PC building n00b, but it's the most affordable option. I'm NOT looking for a future proof computer, but rather something that will handle Frostbite 2 and Arma II with medium-high settings. My rig will be cheaper than the rig shown because I already have a case w/ 500 watts PSU. Can I use any standard 500 Watt power supply or does it have to be "modular?" What do you guys think? There's no cooling solution besides fans so I prob. won't step u[p the GPU to a 6870..but it's under consideration. Annnny advice would be awesome as I'de like to get back into the gaming grind! (my previous Toshiba went to shit)(edit) Found this GPU...http://cgi.ebay.com/ZOTAC-ZT-50303-10M-GeForce-GTX-560-Ti-Fermi-1GB-NEW-/120732756307?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item1c1c3ba953#ht_3549wt_936 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=VG= BLuDKLoT Posted June 18, 2011 at 03:48 PM Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 at 03:48 PM DTRON you can get a pretty good PC already built for about $500 check out www.cyberpowerpc.comCheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=VG= SavageCDN (Inactive Duty) Posted June 18, 2011 at 03:55 PM Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 at 03:55 PM You can use any power supply... modular just means you can add/remove connectors, etc. That being said your power supply is very important with a big GPU, so make sure 500W is going to be enough power to run all your components. Also make sure your existing case has good cooling - I just bought a gtx 570 last month and I've had to basically replace my case (case was a piece of shit anyway) and fans to keep it running at a decent temp.Seems like a great price for that 560..I paid almost $400 for my 570. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest DTRON Posted June 18, 2011 at 04:40 PM Guest Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 at 04:40 PM Cyberpowerpc.com is great. I'm overseas for the next year and have to build. I already have a generic universal case here with 500w PSU. Cooling might have to be jimmied fans since it's hot as fuck down here. I'm leaning towards a Radeon 6870 for electricity sakes. They recommend at least 500W for the 560 ti...should be enough but I notice most new builds have 750w. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=VG=Hans Posted June 18, 2011 at 04:47 PM Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 at 04:47 PM i get bevor 2 Jears a 800w psu and the GTX 570 cost here 251 Euro better to have more power as u need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=VG= Ingo Posted June 18, 2011 at 04:51 PM Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 at 04:51 PM yeah more power is always good will leave room for overclocking and crossfire :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Phoenix4894 Posted June 18, 2011 at 04:56 PM Guest Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 at 04:56 PM Geezus! Those pc from cyberpowerpc.com are extremely cheap! In switzerland, a 600$ computer with all the same Hardware costs over 1'500 CHF and more (~1400$)! Im gonna ship a computer to switzerland next year! Seriously! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest DTRON Posted June 18, 2011 at 05:30 PM Guest Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 at 05:30 PM Well due to budget constraints paying for school n such ... I have to stick with 500W. Maybe next year I'll get a grant to pay for upgrades ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=VG= BLuDKLoT Posted June 18, 2011 at 06:02 PM Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 at 06:02 PM I know, cyberpowerpc is friggin awesome! I own 2 pc's and they've been great. I love that they're local to me as well.s/f Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest DTRON Posted June 18, 2011 at 07:37 PM Guest Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 at 07:37 PM Alright...so seems that the 560 fits in most cases....I'm stuck with the most generic case w/ 500W PSU still...will this build work? There's 4gb of Ram not seen in the pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PITN Posted June 18, 2011 at 09:43 PM Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 at 09:43 PM Make sure the PSU has the correct amp/watt rating on the rail for the video card.The card you chose should be fed about 24amps ON ONE RAIL on a 400w+ PSU for a bare minimum system.btw, that card is on sale for $135 on the EVGA website.http://www.evga.com/products/moreInfo.asp?pn=01G-P3-1557-KR&family=GeForce 500 Series Family&sw=I have to logoff soon. If you give me a day or so I'll look it over and make a recommendation. General rule tho is if going AMD then choose a Radeon card. I recomend a factory Radeon card and not a knockoff. But EVGA is a great company and my choice if going with an nVidia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PITN Posted June 19, 2011 at 02:15 AM Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 at 02:15 AM Some info on video cards.http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-graphics-card-game-performance-radeon-hd-6670,2935.htmlMy brother had issues with that model MSI board. Your CPU pick is very good. For video I'd go Radeon 6950.My pick has the latest chipset. Just double check the ram compatability.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131754 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=VG= SemlerPDX Posted June 20, 2011 at 04:29 AM Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 at 04:29 AM Not a fan of the PSU's that come bundled with cases. Just my 2 cents.And as a PC fixit guy, I've replaced more PSU's in box PC's (stock dell, hp, etc.) than any other part. IMO it's the most crucial part because of it's ability to fry everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=VG= SavageCDN (Inactive Duty) Posted June 20, 2011 at 03:39 PM Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 at 03:39 PM I agree - two things on your PC will die at some point - power supplies and hard drives. Power supplies usually die for 2 reasons:1 - heat issues (improper case cooling, PSU fan dies, etc)2 - no UPS or other power protection used between wall outlet and PC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest DTRON Posted June 24, 2011 at 10:07 PM Guest Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 at 10:07 PM Great news my bidget's increased a bit allowng a new power supply and a little more. I'm still in build limbo...I'm on the fence on almost all components. Toms hardware just released guide for building on a budget. It recommends an i3 dual core + sandybridge over the Phenom II 955 Quad core (SAME PRICE.) Being in Nicaragua I can't rely on OCing much for now and I don't expect to buy coolers. I'm going for the gtx 560 ti over HD 8970 as well. What's the best cpu+mobo combo for $220 or less? Any other suggestions..every day I wait to buy...well is another day I can't game! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest DTRON Posted June 25, 2011 at 12:15 AM Guest Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 at 12:15 AM Fuck it...i'm buying a cooler and overclocking that bitch with a 6870 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest DTRON Posted June 25, 2011 at 12:41 PM Guest Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 at 12:41 PM How's this? I'm iffy on the board since hearing about your bro's board PITN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=VG= SemlerPDX Posted June 25, 2011 at 03:46 PM Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 at 03:46 PM DTRON, I love everything in that pic but the HDD.As you may know, I'm a big advocate of RAID and faster hard drives for true gaming performance.Remeber, bottlenecks. If you have a great GFX card, RAM, MB and CPU, you want your HDD to load the data to them as fast as they can perform. I worry that the 8MB buffer on that one drive will be your bottleneck, preventing you from seeing the full potential performance of the above named parts.I highly recommend Seagate Barracuda's. The 500GB w/16MB buffer is only $56. I use 2 in RAID-0. That way, it reads twice as fast, and has 2 16MB buffers to assist in that data transfer.I have a 6790, an older AMD Phenom X4, and 8GB DDR3. I tried this config with one 1TB Barracuda w/32MB buffer and then with 2 500GB w/16MB buffers (in RAID-0). The RAID configuration was at least 3 times faster. So, I returned the 1TB drive to Best Buy and I'm happily getting a solid 75FPS in ArmA 2(not in the desert, but in action with smoke and explosions).To conclude:If you can only afford one now, just know you can add a second later and reinstall everything. You can also do this with your GFX card, someday when affordable, if you have the power and cooling. I believe PITN uses 2 GFX cards on an "older" system, and that make it possible to keep up with modern game demands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest DTRON Posted June 25, 2011 at 09:43 PM Guest Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 at 09:43 PM yeah I'm trying to avoid bottlenecks....gonna go with the same one you mentioned, is this good enough?http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4499974&CatId=2459 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=VG= SemlerPDX Posted June 25, 2011 at 10:39 PM Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 at 10:39 PM Yeah. I run 2 of those. Looks like you're saving over $10 by going with OEM. And, again, someday down the road, you can buy a second and for $44, you'll see a wonderful price vs. perfomance upgrade boost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest DTRON Posted June 26, 2011 at 04:13 PM Guest Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 at 04:13 PM Can anyone recommend modding a case for more fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PITN Posted June 26, 2011 at 09:37 PM Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 at 09:37 PM Modding a case? You need to cool the HDD, the Graphics, and the CPU. Airflow is the real key. New CPUs and GPUs are very hot. Even the HDD run hot these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=VG= SemlerPDX Posted June 27, 2011 at 12:33 AM Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 at 12:33 AM http://www.staples.com/Antec-Three-Hundred-Computer-Case/product_729953?cm_mmc=GoogleBase-_-Shopping-_-Technology%3EPc_Components-_-729953-153003&cid=CSE:GoogleBase:Technology:Pc_Components:729953:153003Here's a good example of a standard ATX case with good airflow, and filtered intake with a decent price tag. Might wanna shop around, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest DTRON Posted June 27, 2011 at 02:17 AM Guest Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 at 02:17 AM First, thanks everyone for their help and input. I found a nice case here with a 120mm fan on the side. Spot for 1-2 on the back and I was considering putting some fans on top. For now it's the waiting game for shipping. Can't wait to join you guys on the battlefields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=VG= SavageCDN (Inactive Duty) Posted June 27, 2011 at 02:27 PM Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 at 02:27 PM Sounds good DTRON - by the time you get things setup it will be time to upgrade again !winker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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