Okay, here's what I did and any guy can do it too. Got married, had 3 kids, all while I was in the Army. I'm from CA and the wife is from NH. She was pretty meek and had no self-confidence when she was young. I met here in Germany while we were both active duty. She got out when our second daughter was born overseas. I stayed in for 12ys until 92. Back then there wasn't alot of gaming going on, the big thing was the VIC20 and Amiga. Got out of the service went to work. She hooked on at Target. She ended up in the cash office and eventually hooked on with Staples and became a GM, we were about 17ys into the marriage. I encouraged here to get into management as she was working her ass of being an associate for $8 an hr. Anyways her confidence grew wildly and so did her hours, ha. That gave me lots of time after work back when Falcon came out. I didn't MP at all for 7-8yrs just a ton of SP. She's the one that bought me Falcon4.0 Binder addition for $70. We ended up moving to TN about 6yrs ago. She didn't take a cut in pay, which was good and the marriage was, uh, okay. We bought a house(moral of the story shortly). She made a deal that since the economy was so much cheaper here than in CA that all I had to do was maintain the house, cook, clean all that stuff that she'd bring home the bacon. WOW, right up my alley. I always made time for my 3 girls which was a must and I loved them to death. I ended up on the FreeFalcon Dev team, time went on a few years ago the marriage started going south, not crumbling, we just sort ended up living in the same house and tolerating each other. Now I had way more time, lol, to screw around. I started MPing at the same time I was dev'ing. Now were at 28yrs into the marriage and we're still chugging along. She keeps me around because she likes to eat when she gets home, hahaha. I'm at the computer probably 16hrs of the day. Now the moral of the story, make sure when you buy the house it's in both of your names, then she won't kick you out cause you get HALF. !mental Vicious I know what you're going through so I figured a little humor was in order. RAM22